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Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)
From: Phil Karn <karn () philkarn net>
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 19:55:41 -0800
On 12/06/2013 05:54 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
Currently, without a limit, there is nothing to convince a end user to make any attempt at conserving bandwidth and no revenue to cover the cost of additional equipment to serve high bandwidth customers. By adding a cap or overage charge we can offer higher speed plans.
Why is that? Just guarantee each user a data rate that depends on how much he pays. Charge him by what it costs you to build and maintain that much capacity. Lots of mechanisms exist to do this: token bucket, etc. He gets more than his guaranteed capacity only when others don't use theirs. Otherwise he won't. If that's unacceptable to him, then he has the choice of paying you more to upgrade your network or waiting for others to stop using their guarantees. It costs you nothing to let people use capacity that would otherwise go to waste, and it increases the perceived value of your service. Your customers will eventually find themselves depending on that excess capacity often enough that at least some will be willing to pay you more to guarantee that it'll be there when they really want it. Nothing says you have to carry a customer for less than your incremental cost of servicing his account, or that you can't add a reasonable profit margin. But if you can make your customers realize that they're paying you for a guarantee that most ISP users don't get now they may find it entirely worthwhile, especially given the very large economies of scale that often exist in data communications. --Phil
Current thread:
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO, (continued)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 04)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Owen DeLong (Dec 04)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 04)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Owen DeLong (Dec 05)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 05)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Phil Karn (Dec 05)
- Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Mark Radabaugh (Dec 06)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Michael Thomas (Dec 06)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) cb.list6 (Dec 06)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Mark Radabaugh (Dec 06)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Phil Karn (Dec 08)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Dave Crocker (Dec 08)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Jay Ashworth (Dec 08)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Jeff Kell (Dec 08)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Gary Buhrmaster (Dec 08)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 09)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Dave Crocker (Dec 09)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Jay Ashworth (Dec 09)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Jared Mauch (Dec 09)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Jay Ashworth (Dec 09)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Mark Radabaugh (Dec 09)