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Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO
From: Phil Karn <karn () philkarn net>
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:35:40 -0800
On 12/05/2013 02:00 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
If AT&T has capped me, then, I haven’t managed to hit the cap as yet. Admittedly, the connection isn’t always as reliable as $CABLECO, but when it works, it tends to work at full speed and it does work the vast majority of the time.
AT&T threatened to cap U-verse at 250 GB/mo several years ago, but they never seem to have followed through. It's probably about the only way that their incompetence is actually in the public interest. Monthly caps -- and even peak speed limits -- are a very poor idea in general because they don't take system conditions into account. A torrent that runs at night penalizes you just as much as one run at prime time. Actually more, since you probably get greater throughput at off-peak times and therefore hit your cap faster. If one *must* charge for usage on a shared network, the right thing is to base the monthly fee on *guaranteed* bandwidth because that's what actually drives costs. If more is available because others aren't using their guarantees, fine, you can have it for free. But it's not guaranteed. And you don't get a refund for not using your guarantee because the equipment still had to be allocated for you. Of course the real solution to nearly every problem with local broadband access is the same: meaningful competition. About the only way this could happen is for the municipality to install, own and maintain the fiber plant and lease it to any and all commercial service providers on a non-discriminatory and non-exclusive basis. Naturally this will never happen in the United States because the incumbents will scream "socialism!" at the top of their lungs and race to the state houses to outlaw it. Never mind that this is exactly how we've handled roads for centuries. --Phil
Current thread:
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO, (continued)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Mark Andrews (Dec 03)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Nikolay Shopik (Dec 04)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Owen DeLong (Dec 04)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 04)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Owen DeLong (Dec 04)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 04)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Owen DeLong (Dec 04)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 04)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Owen DeLong (Dec 05)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 05)
- Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO Phil Karn (Dec 05)
- Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Mark Radabaugh (Dec 06)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Michael Thomas (Dec 06)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) cb.list6 (Dec 06)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Mark Radabaugh (Dec 06)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Phil Karn (Dec 08)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Dave Crocker (Dec 08)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Jay Ashworth (Dec 08)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Jeff Kell (Dec 08)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Gary Buhrmaster (Dec 08)
- Re: Caps (was Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO) Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 09)