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Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity)
From: Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:47:17 -0500
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:28 PM, John T. Yocum <john.yocum () fluidhosting com> wrote:
VZ wants to get rid of their copper plant. It's expensive to maintain, and
As opposed to fiber plant which is indestructible and cheap to maintain? Well, if VZ owns the copper, if it's not being used to provide a service, and the price of copper keeps going up, it's only a matter of time before VZ should want to take their bits of unused cable back. How useful is leaving a dormant loop in place just because someone might theoretically want it someday? Seems like a waste for VZ not to reclaim it so it can be recycled/put to good use.
it requires that they sell service to competitors. Once they've disconnected their customers from it, they can just eliminate the copper plant. POTS
You sure the regulations won't eventually be updated to apply some rules to whatever POTS is being replaced with? Possibly years before they could finish eliminating their copper plant, which doesn't likely happen until the pricing allows POTS customers to get FiOS delivery installed for free as a cheaper alternative to POTS delivery. -- -JH
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- RE: Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber, (continued)
- RE: Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber Eric Wieling (Mar 21)
- Re: Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber Jay Ashworth (Mar 21)
- Re: Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber Keegan Holley (Mar 21)
- RE: Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber Eric Wieling (Mar 21)
- Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jay Ashworth (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Michael Thomas (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) John T. Yocum (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Michael Thomas (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jay Ashworth (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 21)
- Re: Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber Jay Ashworth (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jimmy Hess (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Robert E. Seastrom (Mar 22)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jay Ashworth (Mar 22)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) William Herrin (Mar 22)
- RE: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jamie Bowden (Mar 22)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Robert E. Seastrom (Mar 22)
- RE: Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber Eric Wieling (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) chris (Mar 22)
- last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Jared Mauch (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) chris (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Jared Mauch (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Keegan Holley (Mar 22)