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Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity)
From: chris <tknchris () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:05:02 -0400
I'm all for VZ being able to reclaim it as long as they open their fiber which I don't see happening unless its by force via government. At the end of the day there needs to be the ability to allow competitors in so of course they shouldnt be allowed to rip out the regulated part and replace it with a unregulated one. Also, I think Z doesnt see any problem at the moment because they probably make more money with the closed fiber network than they ever would shutting down/recycling copper On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:28 PM, John T. Yocum <john.yocum () fluidhosting com> wrote:VZ wants to get rid of their copper plant. It's expensive to maintain,and As opposed to fiber plant which is indestructible and cheap to maintain? Well, if VZ owns the copper, if it's not being used to provide a service, and the price of copper keeps going up, it's only a matter of time before VZ should want to take their bits of unused cable back. How useful is leaving a dormant loop in place just because someone might theoretically want it someday? Seems like a waste for VZ not to reclaim it so it can be recycled/put to good use.it requires that they sell service to competitors. Once they'vedisconnectedtheir customers from it, they can just eliminate the copper plant. POTSYou sure the regulations won't eventually be updated to apply some rules to whatever POTS is being replaced with? Possibly years before they could finish eliminating their copper plant, which doesn't likely happen until the pricing allows POTS customers to get FiOS delivery installed for free as a cheaper alternative to POTS delivery. -- -JH
Current thread:
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity), (continued)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) John T. Yocum (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Michael Thomas (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jay Ashworth (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jimmy Hess (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Robert E. Seastrom (Mar 22)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jay Ashworth (Mar 22)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) William Herrin (Mar 22)
- RE: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jamie Bowden (Mar 22)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Robert E. Seastrom (Mar 22)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) chris (Mar 22)
- last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Jared Mauch (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) chris (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Jared Mauch (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Keegan Holley (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Jared Mauch (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Owen DeLong (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Owen DeLong (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Greg Shepherd (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc John T. Yocum (Mar 22)