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RE: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity)
From: "Tom Walsh - EWS" <mailinglists () expresswebsystems com>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:23:44 -0500
Bingo. On the flip side of the equation, if you want to be an overbuilder (a third communications infrastructure provider beyond the phone and cable companies) the owner of the telephone poles is usually required by the state to sell you an "attachment." An attachment is a connection to a pole at a specific height, reserved for connecting your cables. The power company is usually the owner, so they don't get too bent out of shape about the fact that you're competing with the ILEC. The last I checked, this ran about $5/year per pole. See http://transition.fcc.gov/eb/mdrd/PoleAtt.html
When I worked for a CLEC the way that power pole attachments went, they would sell you the bottom most attachment point on the pole and you were required to move the other attachements further up the pole to make room for your attachment point (at your own expense). In our town the ILEC (GTE which morphed into Verizon) sold the power poles to the local municipality. So if you wanted attachment rights you had to negotiate with the local city manager. So be sure to check with them as well. My personal favorite was driving down the road one day watching them literally snip our fiber off the pole with a pair of cutters (it was a dark overlay we weren't using at the time, thankfully). Apparently the new city manager deemed that our agreement for power pole attachment didn't apply to him since it was negotiated under the previous city manager. He instructed the line workers to cut it down. Lawyers were involved shortly thereafter and the company went insolvent. Good times.
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- RE: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Frank Bulk (Mar 24)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Owen DeLong (Mar 24)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Joe Maimon (Mar 26)
- RE: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Eric Wieling (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) William Herrin (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jay Ashworth (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) John T. Yocum (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) William Herrin (Mar 21)
- RE: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Tom Walsh - EWS (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) joe mcguckin (Mar 21)
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