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Re: IPv6 day and tunnels
From: Joe Maimon <jmaimon () ttec com>
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 08:21:36 -0400
Owen DeLong wrote:
But that's a whole lot more packets than working PMTU-D to get there and you're also waiting for all those round trips, not just the 4 timeouts. The round trips add up if you're dealing with a 100ms+ RTT. 22 RTTs at 100ms is 2.2 seconds. That's a long time to go without first data packet passed, Owen
Yes, it is quite nice when ICMP helpfully informs you what your MTU is.However, we have known for quite some time that is simply not reliable on the IPv4 internet, for a multitude of reasons, with intentional ICMP blocking just one of them.
I have no reason to expect it to work better in IPv6.This is why more reliable methods are a good idea, even if they work slower or add more overhead, because as I see it they are intended to be used concurrently with ICMP.
Also, as I understand the probing, getting data through happens much faster then arriving at the optimal mtu size might take.
Perhaps short flows should just be sticking to the min-mtu anyways. Joe
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Jeroen Massar (Jun 04)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Owen DeLong (Jun 04)
- New routing systems (Was: IPv6 day and tunnels) Jeroen Massar (Jun 05)
- Re: New routing systems (Was: IPv6 day and tunnels) Owen DeLong (Jun 05)
- Re: New routing systems (Was: IPv6 day and tunnels) Jeroen Massar (Jun 05)
- RE: IPv6 day and tunnels Templin, Fred L (Jun 05)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Masataka Ohta (Jun 05)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Owen DeLong (Jun 04)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Jimmy Hess (Jun 04)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Owen DeLong (Jun 04)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Joe Maimon (Jun 05)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Owen DeLong (Jun 05)
- RE: IPv6 day and tunnels Templin, Fred L (Jun 05)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Mark Andrews (Jun 05)
- RE: IPv6 day and tunnels Templin, Fred L (Jun 05)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Jimmy Hess (Jun 05)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Owen DeLong (Jun 05)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Jimmy Hess (Jun 05)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Owen DeLong (Jun 05)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels valdis . kletnieks (Jun 06)
- Re: IPv6 day and tunnels Joe Maimon (Jun 06)