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Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:05:36 -0700


On Apr 26, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Jack Bates wrote:

On 4/26/2012 1:05 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
If resources are used to provide service to a customer,  it is not
unreasonable that ARIN require that this to be shown,  what customer,
etc  -- the org. assigning or reallocating the resources is required
to have documented this.

In addition to this documentation,  for reallocations of  /29 or  more
IPs, SWIP or Rwhois is also required by policy.

It is unreasonable to require detailed customer information on /32 static assignments which make up the smallest 
fraction of space compared to the huge blocks of dhcp pools (pools which justify allocations on their own). In 
addition, a few show commands on a router displaying arp (with first 6 filtered) or ppp sessions (with username 
filtered) or dhcp pool printouts showing utilization would make much more sense and provide better "proof" of 
utilization then handing out private resident names of the <10% static /32 utilization pool.


/32s are not required. Get over it.

/29 and larger.

For management statics, the same applies. A couple arp table captures generally should provide enough proof of 
utilization.

If ARIN really wants to be uptight about it, they can do what all the vendors do and set up a meeting session to 
watch us type the commands. This is probably the hardest method to forge.

I have not argued about any /29 or greater assignment which should be SWIP'd.

Someone else in the thread complained that someone would be vague information in a SWIP concerning a customer, but I 
see it's still listed under 4.2.3.7.3.2. So the NRPM still apparently recognizes the need for Residential privacy as 
long as upstream contacts are available to handle abuse/technical contact.


The other person spoke of classes of businesses so the residential privacy policy would not apply.

Owen



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