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RE: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN
From: "Andy Susag" <asusag () ifncom net>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:28:25 -0400
We just recently "wrastled" with ARIN to get a whopping /22 from them, it wasn't very easy. Keeping record of what you have allocated downstream is important and I totally agree with ARIN insisting this be done. Luckily as long as you have an address, customer name, and a contact, you can issue reassign simples to hostmaster. You don't have to walk your customers through creating POCs and ORG-IDs. When you issue a reassign simple, it will automatically create all that. As long as your allocations are 80% full, you should be able to make a request. You might not get what you want though. Seems kind of counterproductive to ARIN though. I wouldn't think they'd like a database full of fudged SWIP info, but I guess they're OK with it... -----Original Message----- From: Richey [mailto:mylists () battleop com] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 13:21 To: 'Kenneth McRae'; 'Owen DeLong' Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: RE: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN I got a new allocation about 18 months ago. I sent them a spread sheet of the users and their current IPs. I changed the real customer name to something that reflected what business they were in. So I had lots of "Hotel Customer 1" and "Dr. Office 112" with what IPs they were using. There was no way we were going to release a complete customer list to anyone. They didn't seem to have a problem with this. Richey -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth McRae [mailto:kenneth.mcrae () dreamhost com] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 11:46 AM To: Owen DeLong Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN I have never provided the names of end users.. How the address space would be utilized? Definitely.. But not the names of end users... On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
There is not a new policy added on to prevent hoarding. What is required is what has been required for several years. Utilization information and proper justification. If you are seeking an ISP allocation, then, reassignment (customer) information is in fact part of that utilization information. Owen On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Kenneth McRae wrote:Negative.. I have never had to provide end user information. I havebeenrequired to provide utilization information. I am sure this "policy" is and add-on to make it more difficult to prevent
hoarding..
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof () thejof com>wrote:On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM, <admin () thecpaneladmin com>
wrote:
Anyone have any tips for getting IPs from ARIN? For an end-userallocationthey are requesting that we provide customer names for existingallocations,which is information that will take a while to obtain. They areinsistingthat this is standard process and something that everyone does when requesting IPs. Has anyone actually had to do this?Indeed. It's worked this way for a long time. When starting a new organization, there's a bit of a chicken and egg problem with IP space. If anyone could get IP space just for asking for it, it would have been consumed too quickly. So, organizations must first get some space assigned to them from an upstream provider and begin using it. At some point the current usage and growth rate of the assigned space will justify a direct allocation. Then, you can renumber into your new space and be totally
independent.
Cheers, jof-- Best Regards, Kenneth McRae *Sr. Network Engineer* kenneth.mcrae () dreamhost com Ph: 323-375-3814 www.dreamhost.com
-- Best Regards, Kenneth McRae *Sr. Network Engineer* kenneth.mcrae () dreamhost com Ph: 323-375-3814 www.dreamhost.com
Current thread:
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN, (continued)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Owen DeLong (Apr 26)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN William Herrin (Apr 26)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Matthew Palmer (Apr 26)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Kenneth McRae (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Owen DeLong (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Kenneth McRae (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Justin M. Streiner (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Jonathan Lassoff (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Kenneth McRae (Apr 25)
- RE: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Richey (Apr 25)
- RE: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Andy Susag (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Robert E. Seastrom (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN John Curran (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN -Hammer- (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN -Hammer- (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Owen DeLong (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN -Hammer- (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Justin M. Streiner (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN Owen DeLong (Apr 25)
- Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN -Hammer- (Apr 25)