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Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN


From: David Miller <dmiller () tiggee com>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 02:10:47 -0400

On 4/25/2012 12:57 AM, Jack Bates wrote:
On 4/24/2012 2:00 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
I know that the ARIN process can, on occasion be tricky to navigate
if you don't
understand the subtleties of how some of the terminology is defined
and that people
often use terms which have very specific meanings to ARIN staff
members to have
a much broader meaning in what they are intending to say. I know that
often leads
to misunderstandings which make the process even more difficult.

Yeah. Let's not forget that if you have 120 management devices (wifi
backhaul/switches/waps) and a ton of customers with /32 assignments
and you are renumbering from provider assigned space you gathered over
many years into your own initial ARIN assignment, they want:

1. equipment type and info for each management device
2. customer info for each /32 assignment

Tell me what ISP can legally and ethically give out their customer
base information? Don't get me wrong. I'm sure small guys don't think
twice about it, accumulating all the information and handing it over
to ARIN thinking they have no choice (the responses from ARIN leaves
one with that impression; you want the address space, you WILL give us
this).

I sometimes wonder what happens to that information; if it sits around
in an archive somewhere in the vast digital repositories of ARIN
awaiting someone to steal it.

Jack


The ARIN Privacy Policy covers information submitted for address
justifications:
  https://www.arin.net/privacy.html

-DMM



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