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Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers
From: Brian Johnson <bjohnson () drtel com>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:36:50 +0000
On Oct 30, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: <snip ridiculousness>
Email travels over shared resources. Spam consumes roughly %95 percent of that shared path (comm lines and servers). Receiving operators must devote masses of resources to filter that firehose of mostly junk, in order to get everyone's mailboxes to remain at least somewhat useful. Since the spammers are well-organized and aggressive and often quite bright, they adapt their attacks to get round these filters, thereby creating an extremely unstable arms race. This means the entire situation is extremely unstable. When -- not if -- it breaks, mail becomes unusable. That will be a common suffering. The one-to-one cost or damage is probably also a reasonable perspective, but it's /incremental/ to the shared cost. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
So you support filtering end-user outbound SMTP sessions as this is a means to prevent misuse of the Commons*. Correct? - Brian * I do not think of the Internet as a commons, but Dave does. I will not comment on this as it is tangential to the thread.
Current thread:
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers, (continued)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Pete Carah (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers William Herrin (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Dave CROCKER (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers William Herrin (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Joel jaeggli (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers William Herrin (Oct 28)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers -Hammer- (Oct 28)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Jay Ashworth (Oct 28)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Dave CROCKER (Oct 30)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Brian Johnson (Oct 30)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Dave CROCKER (Oct 30)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Michael Thomas (Oct 31)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Jack Bates (Oct 31)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Brian Johnson (Oct 31)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Jack Bates (Oct 31)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Robert Bonomi (Oct 31)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Brian Johnson (Oct 31)
- RE: Outgoing SMTP Servers Keith Medcalf (Oct 31)
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- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers William Herrin (Oct 30)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 28)