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Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers
From: -Hammer- <bhmccie () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:59:16 -0500
Girls, You are all pretty. End the thread. Seriously. -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer On 10/28/2011 01:59 PM, William Herrin wrote:
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Joel jaeggli<joelja () bogus com> wrote:Email as facility is a public good whether it constitutes a commons or not... If wasn't you wouldn't bother putting up a server that would accept unsolicited incoming connections on behalf of yourself and others, doing so is generically non-rival and non-excludable although not perfectly so in either case (what public good is).Interesting. I want to abstract and restate what I think you just said and ask you to correct my understanding: Making a service accessible to the public via the Internet implicitly grants some basic permission to that public to make use of the service, permission which can not be revoked solely by saying so. If that's the case, what is the common denominator? What is the standard of permission automatically granted by placing an email server on the internet, from which a particular operator may grant more permission but may not reasonably grant less? Put another way, what's the whitelist of activities for which we generally expect our vendor to ignore complaints, what's the blacklist of activities for which a vendor who fails to adequately redress complaints is misbehaving and what's left in the gray zone where behavior might be abusive but is not automatically so? Regards, Bill Herrin
Current thread:
- RE: Outgoing SMTP Servers, (continued)
- RE: Outgoing SMTP Servers Brian Johnson (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers William Herrin (Oct 27)
- RE: Outgoing SMTP Servers Brian Johnson (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Pete Carah (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers William Herrin (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Dave CROCKER (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers William Herrin (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Joel jaeggli (Oct 27)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers William Herrin (Oct 28)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers -Hammer- (Oct 28)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Jay Ashworth (Oct 28)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Dave CROCKER (Oct 30)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Brian Johnson (Oct 30)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Dave CROCKER (Oct 30)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Michael Thomas (Oct 31)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Jack Bates (Oct 31)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Brian Johnson (Oct 31)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Jack Bates (Oct 31)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Robert Bonomi (Oct 31)
- Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers Brian Johnson (Oct 31)