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Re: 23,000 IP addresses
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 11:26:37 -0700
On 5/11/11 8:26 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:16 AM, William Allen Simpson <william.allen.simpson () gmail com> wrote:Courts like precedent. I choose Facebook's precedent. Seems reasonable to me.That's also roughly in line with Nextel and others for CALEA.Hrm, I had thought that CALEA specifically removed the ability of the Provider to charge for the 'service'? Though there is always the case where the Provider can say: "Yes, this doesn't fall into the CALEA relevant requests, we can do this for you though it will cost time/materials to do, here's our schedule..." or that's the stance a previous employer was taking... (at the direction of their lawyer-catzen)
A civil subpeona is not a calea request. This thread has done a fair bit of intermingling of the two things to the detriment of it's utility. While I'm sure facebook is served with plenty of valid search warrants, I'm reasonably unsure that they meet the definition of telecommunications carrier. there's some discussion in the light of recent hearings, here: http://paranoia.dubfire.net/2011/02/deconstructing-calea-hearing.html
Current thread:
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses, (continued)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Jimmy Hess (May 11)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Robert Bonomi (May 12)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses David Conrad (May 12)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Jimmy Hess (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Mark Radabaugh (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses William Allen Simpson (May 11)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Christopher Morrow (May 11)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Joel Jaeggli (May 11)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Christopher Morrow (May 11)
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- Fwd: 23,000 IP addresses Luis Marta (May 10)
- Re: Fwd: 23,000 IP addresses Michael Holstein (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Owen DeLong (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Steven Bellovin (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Kevin Oberman (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Justin M. Streiner (May 10)