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Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ?
From: David Miller <dmiller () tiggee com>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:35:27 -0400
On 3/14/2011 12:11 PM, William Allen Simpson wrote:
On 3/13/11 9:35 PM, goemon () anime net wrote:the real cesspool is POC registries. i wish arin would start revoking allocations for entities with invalid POCs.Hear, hear!Leo's remembering the old days (80s - early '90s), when we checked whois and called each others' NOCs directly. That stopped working, and we started getting front line support, who's whole purpose was to filter. Nowadays, I've often been stuck in voice prompt or voice mail hell, unable to get anybody on the phone, and cannot get any response from email, either. Ever. The big ILECsare the worst. What we need is an "abuse" for ARIN, telling them the contacts don't workproperly, which ARIN could verify, revoke the allocation, and send notice tothe upstream telling them to withdraw the route immediately.
Define "contacts don't work properly". - Email / phone number does not exist? - Email / phone was answered by unhelpful person?- Your particular issue provided in email / phone call was not addressed immediately (or within a timeframe that *you* see as appropriate)?
The first can be verified objectively. The others are subjective and impossible to verify.
Force them to go through the entire allocation process from the beginning,and always assign a new block. That might make them take notice.... And shrink the routing table! Win, win! Since we'd only send notification to ARIN about an actual problem, we'd only drop the real troublemakers. To help enforce that, ARIN would also verify the reporter's contacts. :-)
Current thread:
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ?, (continued)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? William Allen Simpson (Mar 13)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? Alexander Maassen (Mar 13)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? goemon (Mar 13)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? Larry Brower (Mar 13)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? Alexander Maassen (Mar 13)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? William Allen Simpson (Mar 13)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? Leo Bicknell (Mar 13)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? Alexander Maassen (Mar 13)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? goemon (Mar 13)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? Suresh Ramasubramanian (Mar 13)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? William Allen Simpson (Mar 14)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? Leo Bicknell (Mar 14)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? David Miller (Mar 14)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 14)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? Jason Bertoch (Mar 14)
- Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ? Douglas Otis (Mar 14)