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Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:35:29 -0800
On Feb 4, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Heinrich Strauss wrote:
Hi, NANOG. Something's just struck me: every IPv4 allocation over a certain threshold has a monetary cost (sometimes in the tens of thousands of USD) and according to our RIR, the first equivalent IPv6 allocation is given as a freebie (to encourage migration). (Disclaimer: I'm on the Dark Continent of Africa) So once the "early" adopters migrate their networks to IPv6, there is no business need to maintain the IPv4 allocation and that will be returned to the free pool, since Business would see it as an unnecessary cost. This would seem to counteract the forced move to IPv6, since, once the early adopters move their services exclusively to IPv6 (or maintaining very small IPv4 blocks), there would be plenty of IPv4 space for the late adopters to request (after the RIR quarantine period, etc). Naturally, 6to4 functionality must remain for a while to interoperability reasons, so their resources would be available to the IPv6 world for time to come. Unless I'm misunderstanding the RIRs policy regarding IPv4 allocations; has it been stated by all RIRs that IPv4 blocks are unallocatable once the exhaustion phase kicks in? Or is there another mechanism to ensure that we don't hand out the space being handed back once IPv6 is the norm? :) Regards, -H.
The big providers will not be deprecating their IPv4 addresses until there is no longer a significant IPv4 internet. At that time, smaller providers could probably get them, but, they will need IPv6 in order to talk to most of the world. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters, (continued)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Patrick W. Gilmore (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Jared Mauch (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Patrick W. Gilmore (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Daniel Seagraves (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Jimmy Hess (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Jay Ashworth (Feb 04)
- RE: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Lee Howard (Feb 06)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Owen DeLong (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Ralph J.Mayer (Feb 05)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Bill Woodcock (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Jared Mauch (Feb 08)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Sam Stickland (Feb 08)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Matthew Kaufman (Feb 08)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Mark Andrews (Feb 08)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters George Herbert (Feb 08)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 08)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters George Herbert (Feb 08)
- RE: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters R. Benjamin Kessler (Feb 08)