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Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters
From: Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:28:58 -0600
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Daniel Seagraves <dseagrav () humancapitaldev com> wrote:
On Feb 4, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
How many addresses do I have to be using for it to count as in use? How high will that number go in the next few months/years?
The most important thing to ensure "usage" is recognized is that the entire address space is announced plus routed, at least one valid host exists, reverse DNS servers are live, AND ensure that all contact details in the WHOIS database are present, accurate,and up to date; including phone numbers, postal address, and e-mails for the organization contacts. You might look into the option of signing the Legacy RSA: https://www.arin.net/resources/legacy/ Available until Dec 2011; If your allocation predated ARIN. I doubt the community is going to scour through all the /24 allocations and try to reclaim them, however. It's not that legacy /24 allocations don't matter, if they are entirely derelict, but the /8s are the ones that "sort of" matter... sort of, because a /8 reclaimed could provide a few months of IP addresses for a RIR. If you have a RSA, you are not really subject to the RIR taking IP addresses that you were already allocated (unless you had violated a policy, for example, by submitting a false application, or you no longer have a justified need for the IPs). Changes to the policy for new allocations doesn't mean existing allocations are cancelled, just because the new rule doesn't allow them. Probably it would not be too fair to try to answer a question that the community hasn't defined an answer for (yet at least) through any RIR policy, in regards to "how much usage" is usage. "Usage" is probably going to mean something like "globally" routed, at least one host exists in each /24, and the addresses are being used for the purpose originally in the application.. That would be what "used" means, but not what "efficiently utilized" means. It's not likely but conceivable, that the RIRs could decide to make a policy of reviewing legacy resources and revoking allocations with bad contact info, or apply an "efficient usage" criterion requiring return/renumbering, for legacy resource holders who have no RSA. -- -JH
Current thread:
- Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Heinrich Strauss (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Fred Baker (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Benson Schliesser (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Bill Woodcock (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Daniel Seagraves (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Patrick W. Gilmore (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Jared Mauch (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Patrick W. Gilmore (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Daniel Seagraves (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Jimmy Hess (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Jay Ashworth (Feb 04)
- RE: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Lee Howard (Feb 06)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Owen DeLong (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Daniel Seagraves (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Fred Baker (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Ralph J.Mayer (Feb 05)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Bill Woodcock (Feb 04)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Brandon Butterworth (Feb 04)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters gb10hkzo-nanog (Feb 08)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Jared Mauch (Feb 08)
- Re: Post-Exhaustion-phase "punishment" for early adopters Sam Stickland (Feb 08)