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Re: quietly....
From: Matthew Palmer <mpalmer () hezmatt org>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:24:57 +1100
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 12:35:46PM -0600, Jack Bates wrote:
On 2/3/2011 12:17 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:Cost of application developmentApplications do not have to be written to support NAT (NAT66 shouldn't find itself in the areas where it's traditionally been a problem). The burden should be upon the NAT device to fix any issues, and this will be paid for by the few that utilize NAT.
You're joking, right?
Cost of administrationIf I choose to use NAPTv6, it's right to accept this cost. It doesn't make someone else pay more for me to administer my firewall.Cost of operationsIf I choose to use NAPTv6, it's right to accept this cost. It doesn't make someone else pay more for me to administer my firewall.
Oh wait... you're *serious*? Have you never in your career come up against another party that says "this is how we do it, and if you want to do business with us you can do it our way or get stuffed"? All of a sudden, their decision to use NAT and/or do other spectacularly stupid things with their networks impacts on *me*[1], and costs *me* money. It doesn't work out like the optimistic utopia you're espousing. - Matt [1] Is there such thing as a "royal me"? There should be.
Current thread:
- Re: quietly...., (continued)
- Re: quietly.... Jay Ashworth (Feb 03)
- RE: quietly.... Matthew Huff (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 03)
- RE: quietly.... Matthew Huff (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Lamar Owen (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Lamar Owen (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Simon Perreault (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Matthew Palmer (Feb 03)
- RE: quietly.... Matthew Huff (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 03)
- RE: quietly.... Matthew Huff (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 03)
- RE: quietly.... Matthew Huff (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Randy Carpenter (Feb 03)
- RE: quietly.... Matthew Huff (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Lamar Owen (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Matthew Palmer (Feb 03)
- RE: quietly.... Matthew Huff (Feb 03)