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Re: Online games stealing your bandwidth
From: Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:25:41 -0500
On 9/28/2010 1:00 PM, Warren Bailey wrote:
Jack, Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but looking at your website - do you only offer dial up services? This could be the background for a statement like "a proper ISP doesn't encourage any type of traffic." We have a couple of OC-192 running to Seattle, so certain "types" of traffic can make a good day turn very badly without some traffic "management".
BrightNet itself has ILEC's as customers. We're a turnkey glue for ILECs nearby. Among other things, I provide engineering support and advise for each ILEC. Each has their own levels of service, management, and technologies deployed including wireless, cellular, DSL, FTTH, and cable. I'm currently running around 1.2gbit between us and 4 NSP transits with 3gbit available. Some of the ILECs have additional load shifting with other transits. I estimate the need to go 10Gig ring or split transit in less than 5 years at current growth rates, and the largest problem we've run into is getting infrastructure to handle gig-e speeds out of rural ILECs for the 100+ mile longhauls. I've had issues with gig-e connectivity just getting out of OKC to enough NSP transits and it will become more difficult/expensive when we do hit 10G.
As it currently stands, we usually have no problems with event spikes, though we sometimes have to tweek the traffic paths depending on how the NSPs do. The largest issues have always been the last mile. As we resolve last mile costs (which dropping 100% fiber in a rural area today doesn't have the safety nets and guarantees that were provided when copper was dropped in), we'll then have to tackle the longhaul connectivity issues, but hopefully the cost to handle that will drop as well.
Jack
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- RE: Online games stealing your bandwidth Warren Bailey (Sep 28)
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- RE: Online games stealing your bandwidth Warren Bailey (Sep 28)
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- RE: Online games stealing your bandwidth Nathan Eisenberg (Sep 28)
- Re: Online games stealing your bandwidth Jack Bates (Sep 28)
- RE: Online games stealing your bandwidth Warren Bailey (Sep 28)
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