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Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course


From: Joe Maimon <jmaimon () ttec com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:09:09 -0400



Owen DeLong wrote:

On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:

Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:


If it doesn't make sense for IPv4, why would you want to do it for IPv6?

"Home wifi router" vendors will do whatever it takes to make this work, so of course in your scenario they simply 
implement NAT66 (whether or not IETF folks think it is a good idea) however they see fit and nobody calls.

Matthew Kaufman

Well, wouldn't it be better if the provider simply issued enough space to
make NAT66 unnecessary?

Owen


If the only reason the common denominator of internet service has not and does not come with more than minimum sufficient supply of IPv4 is due to scarcity, then it may be reasonable to hope that in the future the common denominator of internet service will include near limitless IPv6 addresses for its end users. Very likely, that is better.

However, even then, there is no guarantee that the common denominator CPE for this service wont have NAT66 features, maybe even turned on by default.

And if those CPE do have the feature on by default, then there is no reason for vendors to do more than supply the single /128 or even /64.

Perhaps CPE will respond to a market condition of that nature by throwing out /64 subnetting rules and implementing their own divide-and-consume addressing scheme. And so it may go on and on. Action by action, reaction by reaction, the common scenario evolves, constantly.

Automatic extension of dynamic routing protocols deep into the customers network may not be as sound a notion and as universally adoptable as is currently viewed.

I believe it is way too early to predict with any confidence how this will play out. NAT44 did not become the method-du-jour until well after the scarcity was felt by the actual end users of the IPv4 network. Its increasing effect on network design and engineering came later yet.

So any addressing plan that does not leave a hefty chunk of space reserved to be available for unknown future uses, a la IANA's other /3s, strikes me as unable or unwilling to withstand the test of time, by design.

It would be an epic tragedy if down the road those other /3's were deemed as unusable as 240/4, maybe even for similar reasons.

I suspect the perfect address plan is the holy grail of networking and just as locatable.

Joe


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