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Re: spamhaus drop list
From: Peter Dambier <peter () peter-dambier de>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:15:37 +0200
Also I don't like those lists at all http://www.heise.de/ix/nixspam/dnsbl_en/ Heise do print the very important magazines IX, CT and others in germany. They depend on their emails coming through. Kind regards Peter Quinn Mahoney wrote:
Is there a competing droplist, that can be compared against Spamhaus's droplist? That seems like an extraordinary claim, so I'm not satisfied with the evidence provided. Is this not the best droplist? -----Original Message----- From: Dean Anderson [mailto:dean () av8 com] Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 6:10 PM To: Quinn Mahoney Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: spamhaus drop list I suggest you avoid spamhaus, MAPS, and SORBS. They are really spammers in disguise, using blacklists to harm their competition while presumably letting their own spam through. We know they have used trust of the anti-spam community to list-wash spam-trap addresses. See http://www.iadl.org/whitehat/whitehat-story.html add the IADL pages on Paul Vixie and MAPS. You might also look at http://www.av8.net/IETF-watch/People/JohnLevine/index.html Levine, long head of the Anti-spam Research Group, was also unmasked as a spammer. Fred Baker <fred () cisco com> is on the ISC Board of Trustees, and is a Vixie supportor. --Dean On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Quinn Mahoney wrote:I'm looking to implement the Spamhaus drop list. http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/index.lasso On their FAQ they have a script that looks like it grabs the liststextfile and connects to a given router, and tells you what has changed in the list, and what your router is null routing. I'm not sure if itthenremoves the null routes if a list entry has been removed. I haven't found much documentation on the net regarding this. In the future it looks like you will be able to peer with them and null route traffic from a private AS, which will be routes from the drop list. Right now though, it looks like you'd have to update an ACL manually for any changes to the list. Or use this script which null routes the traffic (I guess it's not a big deal getting the syn packets, as long as the mail won't send because of the null route). I am not sure if this script updates the null routes automatically, or how to use it, Ican'tfind to much documentation. Any documentation on this script or another script available. Whatareyour suggestions? thanks
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- Re: spamhaus drop list sthaug (Jun 16)
- Re: spamhaus drop list Peter Dambier (Jun 16)
- Re: spamhaus drop list Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 16)
- Re: spamhaus drop list Peter Dambier (Jun 16)
- Re: spamhaus drop list Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 16)
- Re: spamhaus drop list J.D. Falk (Jun 17)
- RE: spamhaus drop list Quinn Mahoney (Jun 16)
- Re: spamhaus drop list John Levine (Jun 16)
- Re: spamhaus drop list Bret Clark (Jun 16)
- Re: spamhaus drop list Rich Kulawiec (Jun 18)
- Re: spamhaus drop list Fred Baker (Jun 15)
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