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Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress)
From: Roland Dobbins <rdobbins () cisco com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:04:17 +0800
On Jan 24, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Jack Bates wrote:
Now I have fun trying to explain towards upstream management why a good security team and policy is important in anyone we purchase transit from.
Apart from commercial DDoS mitigation services, how many folks have SLAs which specify DoS-related response-times, ETRs, specify levels of service degradation, et. al. as part of their transit contracts, peering agreements, hosting/co-location agreements, etc.? How many end-customers have these terms written into their contracts with their SPs?
Has anyone ever de-peered or terminated a transit or hosting/co- location relationship specifically due to DoS issues? If so, was it based upon specific contractual clauses related to DoS, or was some other metric used to justify ending the arrangement (i.e., non- adherence to traffic ratios due to DoS traffic, or other effects)? Did you have to pay a termination fee to get out of the arrangement?
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- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Jeffrey Lyon (Jan 23)
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- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Jack Bates (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Roland Dobbins (Jan 23)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) David Conrad (Jan 24)
- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) Mark Andrews (Jan 24)
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- Re: Are we really this helpless? (Re: isprime DOS in progress) David Conrad (Jan 25)
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