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Re: IPv6 Confusion
From: Daniel Senie <dts () senie com>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:13:08 -0500
Tony Hain wrote:
Leo Bicknell wrote:... But, when DHCPv6 was developed the "great minds of the world" decided less functionality was better. There /IS NO OPTION/ to send a default route in DHCPv6, making DHCPv6 fully dependant on RA's being turned on! So the IETF and other great minds have totally removed the capability for operators to work around this problem.No, the decision was to not blindly import all the excess crap from IPv4. If anyone has a reason to have a DHCPv6 option, all they need to do is specify it. The fact that the *nog community stopped participating in the IETF has resulted in the situation where functionality is missing, because nobody stood up and did the work to make it happen.
Because clearly everything done in IPv4 space was crap, or should be assumed to be crap. Therefore, everything that's been worked out and made to function well in the last 25+ years in IPv4 space should be tossed and re-engineered. OSI anyone? The point, which seems to elude many, is that rightly or wrongly there is an assumption that going from IPv4 to IPv6 should not involve a step back in time, not on security, not on central configuration capability, not on the ability to multihome, and so forth. The rude awakening is that the IPv6 evangelists insisting everyone should "get with the program" failed to understand that the community at large would expect equivalent or better functionality. Ultimately the only bit of light emerging above all the heat generated by this thread is a simple observation: "Engineers make lousy salespeople." -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Senie dts () senie com Amaranth Networks Inc. http://www.amaranth.com Kindness in words creates confidence. Kindness in thinking creates profoundness. Kindness in giving creates love. -- Lao Tsu
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 Confusion, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Steven M. Bellovin (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Merike Kaeo (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Sandy Murphy (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Jared Mauch (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Leo Bicknell (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Steven M. Bellovin (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Marshall Eubanks (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Randy Bush (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Sandy Murphy (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Randy Bush (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Daniel Senie (Feb 18)
- RE: IPv6 Confusion Tony Hain (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Christopher Morrow (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Mohacsi Janos (Feb 19)
- RE: IPv6 Confusion Tony Hain (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Randy Bush (Feb 18)
- RE: IPv6 Confusion Tony Hain (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Randy Bush (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Jack Bates (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion sthaug (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Adrian Chadd (Feb 18)