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Re: IPv6 Confusion
From: Adrian Chadd <adrian () creative net au>
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:18:51 +0900
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009, Jack Bates wrote:
Kevin Loch wrote:Just how DO we get the message to the IETF that we need all the tools we have in v4 (DHCP, VRRP, etc) to work with RA turned off?You don't, because there isn't really a technical reason for turning off RA. RA is used as a starting point. It can push you to DHCPv6 or any
Welcome to the 2009 internet. I hate to say it, but the "technical only" argument belongs back in the era I got involved in this junk, mid-1990's. If the things stopping corporate adoption are A, B, and C (eg, DHCPv6 style host management, firewall and l2/l3 filter set parity (eg, cisco port lockdown features, I forget all of the crap involved there), and lack of parity in various application support) and the academic community keeps shouting out "but damnit, our dogfood is better!", then you're going to lose. Being told by a group of network-y people that "our dogfood is better" sounds to me like the days where telco's kept saying "this IP stuff is crap, our ATM/FR "dogfood" is better, why would you deploy IP end to end?" Its amusing. Seriously. Someone needs to draw up some parallels between IPv6 adoption/advocacy and ATM/FR/ISDN "stuff" versus IP(v4) "adoption" back in the mid to late 1990's. I'd certainly have a laugh. my 2c, or 1.24c AUD; Adrian
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 Confusion, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Daniel Senie (Feb 18)
- RE: IPv6 Confusion Tony Hain (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Christopher Morrow (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Mohacsi Janos (Feb 19)
- RE: IPv6 Confusion Tony Hain (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Randy Bush (Feb 18)
- RE: IPv6 Confusion Tony Hain (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Randy Bush (Feb 19)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Jack Bates (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion sthaug (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Adrian Chadd (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Owen DeLong (Feb 18)
- RE: IPv6 Confusion Tony Hain (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Nathan Ward (Feb 18)
- Greedy Routing Rod Beck (Feb 18)
- Re: Greedy Routing Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 18)
- RE: Greedy Routing Deepak Jain (Feb 18)
- RE: Greedy Routing Jake Mertel (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Adrian Chadd (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Nathan Ward (Feb 18)
- Re: IPv6 Confusion Adrian Chadd (Feb 18)