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Re: Lessons from the AU model
From: Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc () internode com au>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:24:06 +1030
Given that three of the Gang of Four (Telstra/Reach, Optus/Singtel, AAPT/Telecom NZ) (hey all encumbents!) won't peer in Oz, even with Global Tier1s in Oz, it doesn't seem a big problem as the cost the GoF charge to access their network is so high (Does that mean there are no global tier 1s? :-)Here it stands for Multilateral peering, so in simplistic terms it means you peer with everyone at an exchange. A route server.My issue isn't that they exist (and in fact one network I maintain is a member of three MLPs.) The issue is compelling people to join the MLP. This dissuades large networks from joining in with the public peering game, and is probably harmful to the peering ecology of the region rather than helpful.
In Australia basically almost everyone bar the GoF peers at the major peering fabrics (PIPEx6, WAIXx1, Equinix Sydney) as it gives you such a large chunk of the eyeballs and corporates outside of the GoF.
We peer with some of Telstra/Reaches upstreams in the US, but they won't peer in Oz. They won't even peer with some very large global tier2s.
Best wishes Andy
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Current thread:
- Re: Lessons from the AU model, (continued)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Andy Davidson (Jan 20)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Matthew Moyle-Croft (Jan 20)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Martin Barry (Jan 20)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Randy Bush (Jan 20)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Martin Barry (Jan 20)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Mark Newton (Jan 20)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Adrian Chadd (Jan 20)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Andy Davidson (Jan 21)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Marshall Eubanks (Jan 21)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Andy Davidson (Jan 21)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Matthew Moyle-Croft (Jan 21)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Adrian Chadd (Jan 21)
- Where is the nanog acronym glossary?, was Re: Lessons from the AU model Dale Carstensen (Jan 21)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Martin Barry (Jan 21)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Adrian Chadd (Jan 20)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model bmanning (Jan 20)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Mark Newton (Jan 20)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Geoff Huston (Jan 20)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Randy Bush (Jan 20)
- Re: Lessons from the AU model Matthew Moyle-Croft (Jan 20)