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Re: YouTube IP Hijacking
From: Arnd Vehling <av () nethead de>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:27:15 +0100
Randy Epstein wrote:
My point was that even with a license, accidents still occur.
My point is that without a license more accidents will occur.
Vendors currently do train their customers and certify them.
A lot of companies dont send their personel to training lessons because of the costs. The vendor primarily trains how to _implement_ a BGP policy on their equipment and not neccessarily how to develop a good peering and filter policy. The "youtube ip hijacking" case _may_ be a result of route redistribution from an internal routing protocol to BGP without any route filters applied. Every decent BGP engineer knows that this is a very bad idea.
LIRs don't and cannot know all the gear out there and configurations from network to network vary.
They dont need to. They could/should ensure that people running ASNs have a good knowledge about how BGP works. Not how to _implement_ a BGP policy on a vendor device. This truly is up to the vendors and ISPs.
This doesn't stop route leaks, nor would this protect us from intentional mischief.
True, but it will help reducing incidents which will have a huge impact on the live and economy of a lot of people. The "youtube IP hijacking" was only a minor nuisance in relation to what can happen if other prefixes are "hijacked" or just leak due to clueless personal. -- Arnd
Current thread:
- RE: YouTube IP Hijacking, (continued)
- RE: YouTube IP Hijacking Hank Nussbacher (Feb 24)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Patrick W. Gilmore (Feb 25)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Matsuzaki Yoshinobu (Feb 25)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Hank Nussbacher (Feb 25)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Arnd Vehling (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Stephane Bortzmeyer (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Arnd Vehling (Feb 26)
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- RE: YouTube IP Hijacking Randy Epstein (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Arnd Vehling (Feb 26)
- RE: YouTube IP Hijacking Randy Epstein (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Arnd Vehling (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Jeroen Massar (Feb 26)
- RE: YouTube IP Hijacking michael.dillon (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Dave Pooser (Feb 26)
- RE: YouTube IP Hijacking Tomas L. Byrnes (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Dave Pooser (Feb 26)
- RE: YouTube IP Hijacking Steve Gibbard (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Danny McPherson (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking brett watson (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Stephane Bortzmeyer (Feb 26)
- Re: YouTube IP Hijacking Owen DeLong (Feb 24)