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Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets
From: "Dorn Hetzel" <dhetzel () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:41:12 -0400
people manage to count stuff they use when they pay for it. minutes(cell), kwh(electricity), gallons(gas), etc. people have managed to figure out cell phone plans where they get N minutes included and then pay extra over that. the only users this would affect are those that upload a lot, because noone else should run over their "premium upload limit" and have their upload traffic reclassified as not-high priority. if bytes are too tiny, maybe count it in tunes, or cds, or web pages(the mythical average web page:) ) or bananas, whatever the marketing folks can live with. call it all a free extra premium service so noone feels bad :) the main idea is that everyone on plan X gets premium service on their first Y bytes/month of upload by default, but if they know more then they can mark some traffic so it doesn't use up their premium quota but gets worse service. if they do nothing, then all their upload is premium until they run out of premium, which the median user never should. On 10/24/07, Rod Beck <Rod.Beck () hiberniaatlantic com> wrote:
The vast bulk of users have no idea how many bytes they consume each month or the bytes generated by different applications. The schemes being advocated in this discussion require that the end users be Layer 3 engineers. That might dramatically shrink you 'addressable market', not to mention your job market ... :) Roderick S. Beck Director of EMEA Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com Wireless: 1-212-444-8829. Landline: 33-1-4346-3209. French Wireless: 33-6-14-33-48-97. AOL Messenger: GlobalBandwidth rod.beck () hiberniaatlantic com rodbeck () erols com ``Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' Albert Einstein.
Current thread:
- RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets, (continued)
- RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Rod Beck (Oct 24)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Adrian Chadd (Oct 24)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 25)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Marshall Eubanks (Oct 25)
- RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Rod Beck (Oct 25)
- RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Barry Shein (Oct 26)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Sean Donelan (Oct 24)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Sean Donelan (Oct 24)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Bruce Curtis (Oct 24)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Adrian Chadd (Oct 24)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Dorn Hetzel (Oct 24)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 24)
- RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets michael.dillon (Oct 24)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 24)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 25)
- RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Frank Bulk - iNAME (Oct 25)
- RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Rod Beck (Oct 25)
- RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Geo. (Oct 25)
- RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Mikael Abrahamsson (Oct 25)
- RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Geo. (Oct 25)
- RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Carpenter, Jason (Oct 25)