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Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?
From: "Brandon Galbraith" <brandon.galbraith () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:03:54 -0500
On 10/21/07, Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Simon Lyall wrote:So stop whinging about how bitorrent broke your happy Internet, Stop putting in traffic shaping boxes that break TCP and then complaining that p2p programmes don't follow the specs and adjust your pricing and service to match your costs.Folks in New Zealand seem to also whine about data caps and "fair usage policies," I doubt changing US pricing and service is going to stop the whining. Those seem to discourage people from donating their bandwidth for P2P applications. Are there really only two extremes? Don't use it and abuse it? Will P2P applications really never learn to play nicely on the network?
Can last-mile providers play nicely with their customers and not continue to offer "Unlimited" (but we really mean only as much as we say, but we're not going to tell you the limit until you reach it) false advertising? It skews the playing field, as well as ticks off the customer. The P2P applications are already playing nicely. They're only using the bandwidth that has been allocated to the customer. -brandon
Current thread:
- Re: [admin] Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? and Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads, (continued)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Geo. (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Jim Popovitch (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Joel Jaeggli (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Geo. (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Joe Provo (Oct 22)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? michael.dillon (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Florian Weimer (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Brandon Galbraith (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Roland Dobbins (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Perry Lorier (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Adrian Chadd (Oct 22)
- NNTP vs P2P (Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?) Jeroen Massar (Oct 22)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Geo. (Oct 22)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Jim Popovitch (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Joe Provo (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Eric Spaeth (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Florian Weimer (Oct 21)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? James Hess (Oct 21)