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Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:31:38 -0500 (EST)
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Gian Constantine wrote:
Those numbers are reasonably accurate for some networks at certain times. There is often a back and forth between BitTorrent and NNTP traffic. Many ISPs regulate BitTorrent traffic for this very reason. Massive increases in this type of traffic would not be looked upon favorably.If you considered my previous posts, you would know I agree streaming is scary on a large scale, but unicast streaming is what I reference. Multicast streaming is the real solution. Ultimately, a global multicast network is the only way to deliver these services to a large market.
Which is why ISPs will see all of the above. There will be store-and-forward video, streaming video, on demand video, real-time interactive video, and probably 10 other types I can't think of.
The concern for university or ISP networks isn't that some traffic uses 70% of their network, its that 5% of the users is using 70%, 80%, 90%, 100% of their network regardless of what that traffic is. It isn't "background" traffic using "excess" capacity, it peaks at the same time
as other peak traffic times. P2P congestion isn't constrained to a single transit bottleneck, it causes bottlenecks in every path local and transit. Local congestion is often more of a concern than transit. The big question is whether the 5% of the users will continue to pay for 5% of the network, or if they use 70% of the network will they payfor 70% of the network? Will 95% of the users see their prices fall and 5% of the users see their prices rise?
Current thread:
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?, (continued)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Gian Constantine (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Joe Abley (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Gian Constantine (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Joe Abley (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Gian Constantine (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Marshall Eubanks (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Gian Constantine (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? John Kristoff (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Gian Constantine (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Sean Donelan (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Sean Donelan (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Gian Constantine (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Petri Helenius (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Marshall Eubanks (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Marshall Eubanks (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Michal Krsek (Jan 10)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Michal Krsek (Jan 10)
- RE: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Frank Bulk (Jan 12)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Gian Constantine (Jan 12)