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Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)
From: Daniel Golding <dgolding () burtongroup com>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 11:29:23 -0500
On 3/3/06 11:04 AM, "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen () sprunk org> wrote:
Keep in mind that current RIR allocations/assignments are effectively leases (though the RIRs deny that fact) and, like any landlord, they can refuse to renew a lease or increase the rent at any point. There might be some interesting political battles when it comes to legacy allocations which are currently rent-free, but those tenants will find themselves woefully outnumbered when that day comes.
Stephen Sprunk "Stupid people surround themselves with smart CCIE #3723 people. Smart people surround themselves with K5SSS smart people who disagree with them." --Aaron Sorkin
Leases are actually a bad thing, from an address exhaustion point of view. Its like a country where the government owns all the land, but people have been farming it for generations. They can't sell it. If an address trading scheme evolves, address block holders will need clear title granted them by the RIRs. That would make an IP address market, moderated through the RIRs as clearing houses, tenable. Sadly, many of the folks who are involved with ARIN are sadly short sighted in this regard. They dismiss both the idea of an address market upon v4 exhaustion and the idea of clear title to address blocks. While I can't state unequivocally that this is the answer, it does seem to merit further study. -- Daniel Golding
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- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Stephen Sprunk (Mar 03)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Daniel Golding (Mar 03)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Michael . Dillon (Mar 06)
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- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Stephen Sprunk (Mar 06)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Daniel Golding (Mar 06)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Stephen Sprunk (Mar 06)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Daniel Golding (Mar 06)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Steven M. Bellovin (Mar 06)
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