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Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)
From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis () kurtis pp se>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:55:18 +0100
On 2 mar 2006, at 06.16, Kevin Day wrote:
No, I'm just trying to be practical here... Estimates of IPv4 pool exhaustion range from Mid 2008 (Tony Hain's ARIN presentation) to roughly 2012 (Geoff Huston's ARIN presentation). Sooner if a mad dash for space starts happening (or isn't happening already).Does anyone here really believe that there is time for:
So what I think we might need (that I wrote in an internet-draft some years ago) is the following things in exactly this order :
0. PI space with an artifically high barrier on entry yet available when needed (read cost+administration=LIR or equiv.).
1. Ducttape ala shim62. One of breakthrough in graph-theory or a completely new addressing/ routing paradigm. Most like the latter.
That will take us past IPv4 exhaustion+IPv6 initial deployment, through wider uptake through to the 10-15 years from now when we might have an idea of what 2 is. I used to believe that it would take 10 years to deploy a standardised version of a stack change, I must say I changing my mind and I am starting to agree with however said that we just need to wait for the next <insert favourite OS> major security hole+patch.
- kurtis -
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- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne), (continued)
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- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Kevin Day (Mar 01)
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- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) bmanning (Mar 01)
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- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Kevin Day (Mar 01)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Mar 03)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Marshall Eubanks (Mar 03)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Brandon Ross (Mar 03)
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- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) bmanning (Mar 03)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Mark Newton (Mar 04)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Stephen Sprunk (Mar 04)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Joe Abley (Mar 01)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Geoff Huston (Mar 05)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Mar 04)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Marshall Eubanks (Mar 04)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Geoff Huston (Mar 05)