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Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)
From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen () sprunk org>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 01:20:05 -0600
Thus spake "Mark Newton" <newton () internode com au>
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 09:50:55PM +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > On 3-mrt-2006, at 21:43, Brandon Ross wrote: > >What's worse is that unless people start changing their tune soon > >and make the ownership of IP space official, this will be a black > >market (like it is now, just much bigger). > > But that will end as soon as interdomain routing is protected by > certificates given out by the RIRs. No, it'll end as soon as those certificates become mandatory. Which will, in my humble estimation, happen at some point near the year 4523.
I agree that RIR certs will never become truly mandatory, but it'll be a Good Idea(tm) to have one to prevent hijacking.
However, some bright accountant at a big telco is going to figure out it's not RIR certs they want to see -- they'll want to issue their own certs to squeeze revenue from non-customers. "You want to buy transit from our peers instead of us? That's great. But, if you want reliable access to our customers from your PI block, you have to pay $100/mo for a routing slot." Bingo, the swamp problem becomes self-correcting.
S Stephen Sprunk "Stupid people surround themselves with smart CCIE #3723 people. Smart people surround themselves withK5SSS smart people who disagree with them." --Aaron Sorkin
Current thread:
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne), (continued)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Joe Abley (Mar 01)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) bmanning (Mar 01)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Edward B. DREGER (Mar 01)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Kevin Day (Mar 01)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Mar 03)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Marshall Eubanks (Mar 03)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Brandon Ross (Mar 03)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Mar 03)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) bmanning (Mar 03)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Mark Newton (Mar 04)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Stephen Sprunk (Mar 04)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Joe Abley (Mar 01)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Geoff Huston (Mar 05)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Mar 04)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Marshall Eubanks (Mar 04)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Geoff Huston (Mar 05)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Joe Abley (Mar 01)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Marshall Eubanks (Mar 02)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Tony Li (Mar 02)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) David Barak (Mar 02)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Stephen Sprunk (Mar 03)