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Re: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact?
From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow () verizonbusiness com>
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 19:32:04 +0000 (GMT)
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Richard Cox wrote:
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 12:42:04 -0500 Martin Hannigan <hannigan () renesys com> wrote:I'd like to see evidence that there is a problem. For example, don't see why these worm lists couldn't have just gone to the abuse address.Of course that's the right answer. IN THEORY. The practice is rather different, and that's WHY the need for some direct contact exists. I followed through with two large UK ISPs, who had both had the list of worm IPs sent to their official abuse address. In neither case had the mail been read or passed on. A copy to their security specialists was appreciated, and resulted in much hurried activity. No, I'm not going to identify who they were; there probably would have been many more ISPs in that position if I'd looked further.
you are surprised that a URL in email with little useful explanation was passed over by their ticketting system? Direct access works for small cases, or important high value targets... Abusing that with a big list, or massive oversubscription will just cause it to fail. If you have a large scale problem, use the accepted large scale problem bucket: abuse@ don't find some lonely person who spends their personal time to help you on individual cases or high priority items to abuse with this... 'use the right tool for the job'.
Current thread:
- RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?, (continued)
- RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA? Bill Woodcock (Feb 04)
- Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA? Jeroen Massar (Feb 04)
- Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA? Bill Woodcock (Feb 04)
- Re: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact? Per Heldal (Feb 03)
- Re: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact? Dave Stewart (Feb 03)
- Re: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact? Joe Abley (Feb 03)
- Re: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact? Mark Owen (Feb 03)
- Re: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact? Richard A Steenbergen (Feb 03)
- Re: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact? Martin Hannigan (Feb 03)
- Re: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact? Richard Cox (Feb 03)
- Re: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact? Christopher L. Morrow (Feb 03)
- Re: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact? Peter Corlett (Feb 03)
- Re: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact? Per Heldal (Feb 03)
- Re: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact? Christopher L. Morrow (Feb 03)
- Re: Yahoo, Google, Microsoft contact? Per Heldal (Feb 03)