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Re: SORBS Contact
From: Michael Nicks <mtnicks () kanren net>
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:39:23 -0500
Don't forget racketeering."A person who commits crimes such as extortion, loansharking, bribery, and obstruction of justice in furtherance of illegal business activities."
I think most network operators have learned about the ultra-liberal listing activities of RBLs these days.
-Michael -- Michael Nicks Network Engineer KanREN e: mtnicks () kanren net o: +1-785-856-9800 x221 m: +1-913-378-6516 Dean Anderson wrote:
SORBS is a well-known abusive/defamatory blacklist. In the US, that violates a number of state and federal laws:1. defamation 2. illegal group boycott in violation of antitrust act 3. (usually) unauthorized blocking by ISP in violation of itscontract with its customer, which is a violation of the electronic communications privacy act. 4. There are frequently state laws that apply to electronic communications that are even more broad.You _can_ make the US based ISP not use SORBS. Most ISPs know better, already. --Dean See also http://www.iadl.org. --Dean On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Brian Boles wrote:Can someone from SORBS contact me offlist if they are on here....On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Stefan Hegger wrote:We have the same problem. We are blacklisted and I filled out the webform. I got an email regarding ticket number and account/password to track the ticket. But it seems that nobody is working on it.There has been extensive discussion on NANAE and NANABl newsgroups on this issue. The bottom line: The SORBS ticket queue is handled by agroup of unpaid volunteers, and there is quite a backlog.That's why there is the automatic de-listing system in place, which requires proper host names and longer time-to-live (TTL) values in rDNS. Yes, it's a bit of work, but it beats waiting for someone to get around to your ticket. No, I'm not associated in any way with SORBS, just an interested observer and system administrator who has had to deal with listings myself.On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Michael Nicks wrote:Sad state of affairs when looney people dictate which IPs are "good" and "bad".On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, S. Ryan wrote:Even worse if your ISP uses it and demands you ask the 'offender' to get 'themselves' removed.
Current thread:
- Re: SORBS Contact, (continued)
- Re: SORBS Contact Steve Sobol (Aug 09)
- Re: SORBS Contact Steve Sobol (Aug 09)
- Re: SORBS Contact Nachman Yaakov Ziskind (Aug 09)
- RE: SORBS Contact andrew2 (Aug 09)
- Re: SORBS Contact Matthew Sullivan (Aug 09)
- Question for the List Maintaners -- (Re: SORBS Contact) Steve Sobol (Aug 09)
- Re: Question for the List Maintaners -- (Re: SORBS Contact) Matthew Sullivan (Aug 09)
- Re: SORBS Contact william(at)elan.net (Aug 08)
- Re: SORBS Contact Matthew Sullivan (Aug 08)
- Re: SORBS Contact Albert Meyer (Aug 09)
- Re: SORBS Contact Andrew D Kirch (Aug 09)
- Re: SORBS Contact Michael Nicks (Aug 09)
- Re: SORBS Contact Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Aug 09)
- Re: SORBS Contact Allan Poindexter (Aug 09)
- Re: SORBS Contact Matthew Sullivan (Aug 09)
- Re: SORBS Contact Allan Poindexter (Aug 09)
- Re: SORBS Contact Christopher L. Morrow (Aug 09)
- RE: SORBS Contact Robert J. Hantson (Aug 09)
- RE: SORBS Contact Christopher L. Morrow (Aug 09)