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(de)peering
From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:34:30 +0000
On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 08:06:49PM -0400, James wrote:
On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 02:17:09PM -0700, David Sinn wrote:So this is all well and good while some measure of V6 is tunneled, but one should be wondering what these games of chicken mean to V6 when it is native. Given that most organizations won't meet the qualifications to be multi-homed, stunts like this will have a greater impact then this one is having today. Doesn't exactly leave a warm fuzzy that the current direction for IPv6 services is sane....Indeed. Unfortunately (or actually, may this is rather fortunate?) there is practically no money value yet in IPv6, so we may be at least a year (or more) away from seeing the first major v6 depeering dispute. But nevertheless, given the imperfect state of multihoming for edge sites in IPv6, such depeering war will be significantly more detrimental to customers who cannot justify for a /32 or a "special infrastructure" /48 prefix allocation from the RIRs. Let see how multihoming proposals (e.g shim6, relaxed RIR allocation policy requests, etc et al) turn out in the next few months. IPv6 operators should probably want to pay close attention to multihoming proposals and any commercial developments in v6 world in the next year or two perhaps. If multihoming solutions don't really turn out well and v6 is appearing to become more ubiquitous, it may be a plausible idea to start opening up your route-filters to accept /48 prefix-lengths before the first depeering happens :)
er... the first depeering flaps have -already- occured in IPv6 space. there are several (mostly EU-based) ISPs that refuse to peer w/ folks using 3ffe:: space and/or filter that prefix. --bill
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Current thread:
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering, (continued)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Daniel Golding (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 06)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Christopher Woodfield (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Jon Lewis (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Christopher Woodfield (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering David Sinn (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering James (Oct 05)
- (de)peering bmanning (Oct 05)
- Re: (de)peering Pekka Savola (Oct 05)
- Re: (de)peering Robert E . Seastrom (Oct 06)
- RE: Cogent/Level 3 depeering John Curran (Oct 05)
- RE: Cogent/Level 3 depeering william(at)elan.net (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Richard A Steenbergen (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 06)