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Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?]
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:57:57 -0400
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:33:29 PDT, Steve Sobol said:
Barry Shein wrote:One useful definition of (some sorts of) insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results. I therefore assert there is no technical solution to spam.The ultimate solution would have to be a combination of social, technical and probably legislative.
Amen (mostly). I think we can write off "legislative" until we fix the root causes that gave us the CAN-SPAM act. We'll more likely make progress on the "judicial" side by finding a gung-ho DA who wants to get famous by enforcing the *existing* laws - I seem to recall one up in NY.. ;) I've been saying it for years - there's a *really* quick fix to the spam problem. We just take a pool - a few hundred dollars from every ISP. We hire some <insert ethnic> enforcment goons to "explain things" to the spammers, and allow the goons to be creative. Have them visit one of the top-100 off the ROSKO list at random each week. We'll be well on the way to done by the end of the summer. ;) Squeamish? Oh bother. OK, so we hire lawyers instead. Less bloody, but it takes longer and costs more....
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- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Barry Shein (Jun 09)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? william(at)elan.net (Jun 09)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Douglas Otis (Jun 09)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Stephen Sprunk (Jun 09)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Matt Ghali (Jun 09)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 10)
- Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Andre Oppermann (Jun 10)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jun 10)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Barry Shein (Jun 11)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Steve Sobol (Jun 11)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 11)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Steve Sobol (Jun 11)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] william(at)elan.net (Jun 11)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] John Levine (Jun 11)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Barry Shein (Jun 13)
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