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Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?
From: Barry Shein <bzs () world std com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:44:05 -0400
We've already tackled reputation systems, they were called web site certificates. You have to submit to a few fairly stringent checks on who you are, typically provide a D&B id which isn't very expensive or difficult but not all that easily defrauded w/in some reasonable parameters (it ain't bank security but it's good enough to be pretty sure you're giving your credit card info to who you think you are, damn, you hand your card to strange bartenders right?) But there was real money in web site certificates, indirectly, in the form of e-commerce. And that area had the good luck of evolving rapidly in a huge market boom. There's basically no such money in e-mail, not versus not adding a reputation system. No further explanation should be necessary. However, I'll add my voice that I believe "reputation" systems as an approach to spam-prevention are neither useful nor sufficient w/o repeating what others have said. The problem is really pretty simple; we're trying to solve a big problem w/o creating any concomitant economics to support a solution. It's a nice fantasy, and that's what it remains after a decade. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs () TheWorld com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD The World | Public Access Internet | Since 1989 *oo*
Current thread:
- Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Fergie (Paul Ferguson) (Jun 07)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Daniel Golding (Jun 07)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? John Levine (Jun 07)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? J.D. Falk (Jun 07)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jun 07)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Tony Finch (Jun 08)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jun 08)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? John Levine (Jun 07)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Barry Shein (Jun 09)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? william(at)elan.net (Jun 09)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Douglas Otis (Jun 09)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Daniel Golding (Jun 07)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Stephen Sprunk (Jun 09)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Matt Ghali (Jun 09)
- Re: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 10)
- Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Andre Oppermann (Jun 10)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jun 10)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Barry Shein (Jun 11)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Steve Sobol (Jun 11)
- Re: Economics of SPAM [Was: Micorsoft's Sender ID Authentication......?] Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 11)