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RE: "Make love, not spam"....


From: chuck goolsbee <chucklist () forest net>
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:10:33 -0800


It's a DDOS. The risk of collateral damage is  high.
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From what limited information is available in the articles, it doesn't sound that way. It's not really a DDoS attack, but more of a "distributed web surfing bot." <snip>

I understand this as more of a Distributed Consumption of Service attack. (Is the acronym DCoS used yet?) Real requests, downloading real data, to real computers. A lot of them. T
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The big difference between Lycos Europe, and a script kiddie with zombies is that Lycos is mature enough to use restraint and not knock down websites with brute force. They're attempting to use the politically correct "grown up" way to attack someone: economics.

How is giving the spammers what they want (real web site traffic) an attack? That doesn't even qualify!

How many bogus URLs are embedded into spam content? A: Lots.
They are used to obscure words to get past filters, or as red herring targets or joe-jobs. A DDoS is a DDoS, no matter how "benign" one might think it is, or how "evil/deserving" the target is perceived to be.


The risk of collateral damage is way too high.
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