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Re: /24s run amuck


From: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve () telecomplete co uk>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:12:39 +0000 (GMT)



Deaggregation is at an all time high, I have raised this publically in some 
forums and IXP ops lists. Response is poor, action is non-existent.

The only way I can see to do anything about this is for upstreams to educate 
their customers and others to pressure their peers.

Two primary reasons are given, one is for traffic engineering purposes to either 
control the ingress of traffic or to allow a network to function with critical 
links down and the other is to allow blocks to be dropped to mitigate the 
effects of a DDoS, I dont believe either justify the deaggregation of large 
aggregates into Nx/24s and that a large driver is to make your network look 
larger than it is...

Steve

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:

Ok, I realized I haven't done one of these since 2001, so it's time for an
updated list of /24 polluters. With /24s accounting for over 50% (more
than 71k) of the announcements on the Internet, it seems reasonable to try
and take a look at why there are so many.

One of the patterns which quickly becomes evident is the announcing of 
"almost all" of a larger block, but with enough gaps that traditional 
scripts which look for CIDR aggregation can miss it. For example, someone 
who owns a /16 and announces it as 250 /24s might not show up in other 
CIDR aggregation scripts because of the missing 5 /24s, or if 1 of the 
/24s has a different AS Path.

So, solely for the purpose of looking for this pattern, I have written a
script which counts the number of /24s announced within a /16 (an
admittedly arbitrary range, but one which happens to work) with a
consistant AS Path, and sorts by the highest count. This of course doesn't
mean for certain that the netblock listed doesn't have a good reason for
their deaggregation, but odds are they don't or could otherwise take steps
to limit announcement to the general internet (for example a cable modem
provider with 250 individual routes /24s but only a single upstream
provider, who could announce a /16 globally and use no-export on the more
specifics).

This is done from the point of view of a Global Crossing (AS3549) transit 
feed, so things may look slightly different fromy our corner of the 
Internet. You have been warned.

A summary of the top 250 netblocks by count:

http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras/projects/ipaddr/24summary

Detailed list of the netblocks and AS Path by count:

http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras/projects/ipaddr/24dump

A sorted list of the origin ASs contributing the /24s in the above lists:

http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras/projects/ipaddr/24asn

If you are on the list or know someone who is, please encourage them to 
take steps to clean up their act. You may now return to your regularly 
scheduled complaining about Verisign.




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