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Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage)
From: Petri Helenius <pete () he iki fi>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 21:06:20 +0200
Jared Mauch wrote:
The trend running against these points is the added features and complexity into the software due to market requirements. So while the box you got two years ago might have less bugs today, there are more attractive new devices with new bugs in the old and new features. People seem to be quite convinced that if you put more features into a box, people will pay more for it.On the sunny side, I see this improving over time. Software bugs will be squashed. Poorly designed networks will be reconfigured to better handle these situations.
On your second point, it seems that most network protocols are converging towards port TCP/80. So unless network performance and availability degrades really badly, most users are indifferent and the 1st level helpdesk at their provider tells that "at times the internet might be slow" and they usually are quite happy and understanding with that answer because they donĀ“t know that it could be better.
So outside Fortune 500 and some clueful individuals, where is the market for non-poorly designed bug free "Internet"?
Pete
Current thread:
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage), (continued)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) David Meyer (Feb 25)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) Jared Mauch (Feb 25)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) Steven M. Bellovin (Feb 25)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) David Meyer (Feb 25)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) Petri Helenius (Feb 25)
- RE: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) Bora Akyol (Feb 25)
- RE: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) Erik Haagsman (Feb 25)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) David Meyer (Feb 25)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) Petri Helenius (Feb 25)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) David Meyer (Feb 25)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) Jared Mauch (Feb 25)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) Petri Helenius (Feb 25)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) Matthew Crocker (Feb 25)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) Jeff S Wheeler (Feb 25)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) Matthew Crocker (Feb 25)
- Re: Converged Networks Threat (Was: Level3 Outage) Matthew Crocker (Feb 25)
- RE: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat) Bora Akyol (Feb 25)
- Expectations or It can't happen to me (was Re: How Reliable) Sean Donelan (Feb 26)