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Re: Lazy network operators
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch () muada com>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:24:53 +0200
On 14-apr-04, at 21:16, JC Dill wrote:
However, filtering TCP port 25 is bad not just because it is massively inconvenient for many people (ever work in support?)
Simply put, I do not agree with your assertion here.
And you conveniently left out all the more important ones again. I guess you must be right then.
We need to stop whining that it's "hard" or "expensive" do to the right thing and close loopholes that are abused by spammers. It's much harder and more expensive long term to NOT do the right thing.
Ok, speaking as someone who operates networks right now (I only run a mail server for one user: myself): if you application types can't make your protocols and implementations do what you want: tough. That's your problem. I'm not about to change the network to accommodate you. There are (potentially) 255 other protocols in IP and 65535 other ports in TCP, what if they all want special handling? Forget it. But feel free to come back and complain again when the percentage of network traffic for your protocol reaches double digits.
Current thread:
- Re: Lazy network operators, (continued)
- Re: Lazy network operators Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators Todd Vierling (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators Andrew - Supernews (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators Joe Abley (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators JC Dill (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators Petri Helenius (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators Stephen J. Wilcox (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators JC Dill (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators Iljitsch van Beijnum (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators E.B. Dreger (Apr 15)
- Re: Lazy network operators joshua sahala (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators John Curran (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Michael . Dillon (Apr 14)
- Re: Lazy network operators Chris Palmer (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators John Curran (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Paul Vixie (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Paul Vixie (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Petri Helenius (Apr 13)
- Re: Lazy network operators Crist Clark (Apr 14)