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RE: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator
From: Timo Janhunen <timo () aci on ca>
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 20:41:53 -0500
At 04:04 PM 04/04/2003 -0800, Bill Woodcock wrote:
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Matthew Kaufman wrote: > natural gas has been off for multiple days in a row twice. > So for the last datacenter I built, I went with diesel. I'm not following your logic... How does the fact that natural gas is _usually_ available on-tap, and diesel _never_ is make diesel preferable? -Bill
Natural gas as generator fuel is generally not a good idea for a few reasons:- Natural gas is volatile, hence not a good option in earthquake prone areas - earthquake + natural gas line = big smelly leak - big smelly leak + spark = big fire - Diesel is fairly stable, and won't go up with quite so large a bang in a fire, not to mention it can only be ignited under extreme temperature and pressure - The gas gets cut off immediately in any fire situation, usually affecting a few city blocks at a time - Diesel is readily available, and can be delivered by any Joe Citizen during a disaster to the generator site, since it doesn't require much in the way of special containers
Diesel generators come in both turbocharged and naturally aspirated models, which can easily be serviced by any competent diesel mechanic. Genset diesels are not any different than diesels in a passenger vehicle, tractor, or transport truck. In fact, diesels in gensets are engineered to work under much higher load conditions than vehicles, since they run constantly at a higher RPM under load
Last, but not least: if you can't get diesel fuel from anywhere to run it, buy a few gallons of vegetable oil from the local supermarket and pour it in the tank. It'll work just as well.
Timo
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- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator, (continued)
- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Timo Janhunen (Apr 04)
- Re[2]: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Richard Welty (Apr 04)
- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Stephen Sprunk (Apr 04)
- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Daniel Senie (Apr 04)
- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Bill Woodcock (Apr 04)
- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator David Lesher (Apr 04)
- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator David Lesher (Apr 04)
- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Brian Wallingford (Apr 04)
- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator E.B. Dreger (Apr 05)
- Re[2]: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Richard Welty (Apr 05)
- RE: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Timo Janhunen (Apr 04)
- RE: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Bill Woodcock (Apr 04)
- RE: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Dan Hollis (Apr 04)
- RE: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Timo Janhunen (Apr 04)
- RE: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Eric Germann (Apr 04)
- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator JC Dill (Apr 05)
- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Chris Adams (Apr 03)
- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator David Lesher (Apr 03)
- Re[2]: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Richard Welty (Apr 03)
- Re: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator Eric Kuhnke (Apr 03)