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Re: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users"
From: Adrian Chadd <adrian () creative net au>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:18:31 +0800
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002, Nathan J. Mehl wrote:
In the immortal words of Steven J. Sobol (sjsobol () JustThe net):So you think that dialup users should be allowed to stay online 24/7 for $20/month on an account advertised as unlimited?The Federal Trade Commission (and possibly your local district attorney) will certainly think so, unless your service contracts contain a novel redefinition of the word "unlimited." (This is, I suspect, why most of them do just that.)
We have the same problem out here in Australia with ISPs selling "unlimited" accounts, but they really aren't unlimited in the truest sense of the word. The cutest idea I ever saw (and I'm not sure how well this'd scale on a cable network, but ..) was adaptive bandwidth limiting. One ISP tried bandwidth limiting each dialup customer based on how much bandwidth they had used over a calendar month. If you fell inside that top 1% which used 50% of the network resources, you soon ended up getting a trickle of traffic. Local traffic (for example, gaming, or local IX traffic) wasn't affected by this pipe. Personally, I think that would be wonderful for Residential Cable/DSL services - there's only going to be a (relatively) small number of your userbase that will ever be affected by the bandwidth limiting, and you're still providing "unlimited" connectivity to whatever you deem as "local" .. Adrian -- Adrian Chadd "The first rule of optimisation: <adrian () creative net au> Don't do it, and at least don't do it yet." -- Stefan Axelsson
Current thread:
- RE: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users", (continued)
- RE: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Steven J. Sobol (Jan 31)
- Re: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Scott Francis (Jan 31)
- RE: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" M. David Leonard (Jan 31)
- RE: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Greg Pendergrass (Jan 31)
- Re: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Stephen Sprunk (Jan 31)
- Re: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" W.D.McKinney (Jan 31)
- RE: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Tim Irwin (Jan 31)
- RE: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Vivien M. (Jan 31)
- RE: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Patrick (Jan 31)
- Re: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Nathan J. Mehl (Jan 31)
- Re: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Adrian Chadd (Jan 31)
- Re: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" E.B. Dreger (Jan 31)
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- RE: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Daniel Senie (Jan 31)
- Re: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Stephen Griffin (Jan 31)
- RE: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Deepak Jain (Jan 31)
- Re: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Stephen Sprunk (Jan 31)
- Re: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Jon Mansey (Jan 31)
- RE: SlashDot: "Comcast Gunning for NAT Users" Scott A Crosby (Jan 31)