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Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches
From: Paul Vixie <vixie () vix com>
Date: 18 Nov 2001 19:23:37 -0800
F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET is a "value subtraction service". It misses published portions of the name space - so if you use it, it is of limited value. I can reach twice as many TLDs elsewhere. Oh yeah. It's "stable". I forgot.
F publishes whatever the zone's owner has edited into it. Never more or less.
What ticks me off is the zero-sum game being played. Anyone saying "there can only be one root zone" and supporting a closed and non-inclusive root is playing a zero sum game. "We win, you lose" is not the spirit of the internet, running code and rough-consensus.
I'm making no arguments (at this time and in this place, at least) for one single-owner versus another. However, there's only one real root zone at any given moment, according to DNS's specification and at least one implementation. One expects that an argument as to who that single owner ought to be is welcome somewhere (other than nanog, that is), but any argument about how many different actual root zones there can be would not be welcome at all (except, I guess, if you're IPv8-connected.) "What ticks me off" is the folks who want the owner/contents of the root zone to be different than they are, and who therefore offer up completely bizarre misinterpretations of hard technical fact in order to support a de-facto ownership change (by changing one to many rather than arguing about the one.) If you don't like ICANN, fine, there's a mailing list somewhere and you ought to go make yourself heard on it. But don't pervert DNS, fragile and perverse as it already is, in order to make or avoid various political realities.
Current thread:
- Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches, (continued)
- Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches Pat Myrto (Nov 17)
- Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches Randy Bush (Nov 18)
- Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches John Palmer (NANOG Acct) (Nov 18)
- Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches Paul Vixie (Nov 18)
- Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches measl (Nov 18)
- Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches Andy Walden (Nov 18)
- Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches Paul A Vixie (Nov 18)
- Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches Alex Bligh (Nov 18)
- Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches Simon Higgs (Nov 18)
- RE: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches Mathias Koerber (Nov 18)
- Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches Paul Vixie (Nov 18)
- how many roots must DNS have before it's considered broken (Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches) E.B. Dreger (Nov 18)
- Re: how many roots must DNS have before it's considered broken (Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches) measl (Nov 19)
- Re: how many roots must DNS have before it's considered broken (Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches) Adrian Chadd (Nov 19)
- Re: how many roots must DNS have before it's considered broken (Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches) Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 19)
- Re: how many roots must DNS have before it's considered broken (Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches) Adrian Chadd (Nov 19)
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- Re: how many roots must DNS have before it's considered broken (Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches) Simon Higgs (Nov 19)
- Re: how many roots must DNS have... bmanning (Nov 19)
- Re: how many roots must DNS have before it's considered broken (Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches) Steve Gibbard (Nov 21)
- Re: how many roots must DNS have before it's considered broken (Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches) Sean Donelan (Nov 21)
- RE: how many roots must DNS have before it's considered broken (Re: ISP network design of non-authoritative caches) W.D.McKinney (Nov 22)