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Re: net.terrorism
From: John Fraizer <nanog () EnterZone Net>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:06:36 -0500 (EST)
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Sabri Berisha wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, William Allen Simpson wrote:Sabri Berisha wrote:I am concerned. Concerned about people and companies who think they are in the position to be net.gods and for political reasons destroy the free character of the internet.I've been involved for over 20 years, and don't remember this "free character". Perhaps there is a language translation problem? That also applies to the use of the word "terrorism"?"Free" as in everybody decides their own policies. "Terrorism" as in forcing your policies on someone elses network.
OK. You are obviously mistaken about how routing policy works so, lets give you a little education, free of charge. Abovenet enforces policy which blocks 194.178.232.55/32. You are a CUSTOMER of Abovenet, you obtain transit to the prefixes that pass their particular routing policy. Customers of YOURS obtain transit to prefixes that pass YOUR policy and the policies of your transit providers. If you don't like the particular routing policy of your transit provider, you are "Free" to find a new provider. It is just that simple.
Why do you want me to have read everything you have read? My point is not policy based routing or which ICMP message I get. My point is not to announce something you won't route.
It's your contention that Abovenet shouldn't announce 194.178.0.0/16 just because they are NULL routing 194.178.232.55/32 for policy reasons? You ARE confused, aren't you?
If I want to make sure my traffic gets to that host, I can set up a static route to our second uplink. But it's not *me* who should be filtering. How do I know which other hosts are being announced and blackholed?
Perhaps as a customer, instead of jousting windmills on NANOG, you should contact a sales engineer at Abovenet and request information on their routing policy. It will be much more productive. --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
Current thread:
- Re: net.terrorism, (continued)
- Re: net.terrorism John Payne (Feb 24)
- Re: net.terrorism Adrian Chadd (Feb 24)
- Re: net.terrorism bmanning (Feb 24)
- RE: net.terrorism John Belcher (Feb 24)
- RE: net.terrorism Sabri Berisha (Feb 24)
- RE: net.terrorism John Belcher (Feb 24)
- Re: net.terrorism Adrian Chadd (Feb 24)
- RE: net.terrorism John Belcher (Feb 24)
- Re: net.terrorism Alex Bligh (Feb 24)
- Re: net.terrorism Randy Bush (Feb 24)
- Re: net.terrorism John Fraizer (Feb 24)
- Re: net.terrorism Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 24)
- Re: net.terrorism Jeff Haas (Feb 24)
- How does one make not playing nice with each other scale? (Was: net.terrorism) Anne Marcel (Feb 24)
- Re: How does one make not playing nice with each other scale? (Was: net.terrorism) Paul Vixie (Feb 24)
- Re: How does one make not playing nice with each other scale? (Was: net.terrorism) Anne Marcel (Feb 24)
- Re: How does one make not playing nice with each other scale? (Was: net.terrorism) Mark Mentovai (Feb 24)
- Re: How does one make not playing nice with each other scale? (Was: net.terrorism) Joshua Goodall (Feb 24)
- Re: How does one make not playing nice with each other scale? Greg A. Woods (Feb 24)
- Re: How does one make not playing nice with each other scale? Mark Mentovai (Feb 24)