Re:

[Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp>]

Bill;

> > >   Any given interface is inherently rate limited.
> > >   When demand exceeds the capacity, something must be
> > >   done. Often this is done w/ "striping" or "muxing"
> > >   where multiple "low-speed" channels are "bonded" into
> > >   a single virtual path. L1 is not that different than 
> > >   L2 & L3 in these cases. The specific dynamics are 
> > >   unique per layer but the problem remains the same.
> >
> > When l1 is p2p, you can do nothing at l2, unless you additionally
> > introduce l2 switches which are as expensive as and often slower
> > (as is the case with ATM) than l3 routers.
>
>       when L1 is p2p (generally true for most deployed L1 technologies)
>       you still need something to originate/terminate the information
>       transmission. and when the offered load exceeds the L1 capabilities,
>       you are stuck. Striping or changing L1 media are the primary options.

And we rely on l3.

>        Your other points wrt introduction of more stuff are true.

I never said we should get rid of l3. :-)

> > But, the point here is that it is not or will not be necessary to
> > share a single "high-speed" channel for "low-speed" pathes
> > to multiple ISPs through L2 switches.
>
>       Thats true today and has been for several decades.

Partly because telco has been offering l2 service to carry l3.

Things are changing partly because dark fibers, raw l1 media, are
available.

>       But it might be desirable, for any number of reasons.

The primary reason should be to make telco profitable forever.

                                                Masataka Ohta