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Re: ** ANNOUNCE -- New RADB Fee Structure **


From: "Alex P. Rudnev" <alex () virgin relcom eu net>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:38:36 +0400 (MSD)


Right.  In going over my Qwest contract I signed last week, it's required
that I have maintainer objects in the RADB in order to get my BGP
announcements listened to by Qwest since they build their filters out of
it.  I had no problem with that on Friday when I signed, but upon hearing
that unpaid objects would be removed, I'm a bit worried now.  If Merit can
Hmm, do you remember all mistakes done in the domain data base? If someone
lost your domain, you can at least look on the WWW page or sent a mail; if
someone lost your routing, you can turn off all your equipment and go
fishing /and you can close your business/. And remember, we are going to
the VoIP telephony - in some cases you even can not call them...

No, any attempt to remove route objects (not the maintaners) due to some
fee's means the death of the RA-DB as the route-registry.

Alex.

paying for the service.  But seeing as how humans make mistakes, I can
only guess that it will happen at least once, and it could be highly
annoying if it happens often or to the right maintainer object.

I concur with you.  It's much safer to just block all changes to objects
that haven't been paid for instead of outright deleting them.  Not to cast
aspersions upon Merit, but the last thing we need is a registry that makes
mistakes like NSI has done to many in the past.

--
Joseph W. Shaw - jshaw () insync net    
Free UNIX advocate - "I hack, therefore I am."

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Alex P. Rudnev wrote:

I just have written (through I am out of this problems) - I can't discuss
the fee idea, but any attempt to REMOVE something unpaid can destroy the
internet at whole... This days a lot of filters over the world are built
from this data bases, and a lot of networks can (simple) forgot to pay...


The alternative idea should be to block the future changes for the unpaid
objects - at least it's safe and can not destroy the network.

Alex. /I am in Russia now, and don't bother about RA-DB fee, but I am
bother about the Internet stability/.



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