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Re: Suggestion for improved identD


From: Adrian Chadd <adrian () creative net au>
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:41:38 +0800

Ehud Gavron writes:
Suggestion:    PPP access devices intercept identD requests
              and return the authenticated access string.

Reasoning:     Modern ``stacks'' used by end-users -- especially
              those on throwaway accounts, fake any identD response.
              This makes tracking those people tougher.

Methods:       1: identD v2, new port, intercepted by access devices
                 which support it.

              2: modification to hosts requirement RFCs, making
                 access devices responsible for intercepting identD
                 requests to their PPP clients.

              3: a security RFC ``suggesting'' 1 or 2

Thoughts appreciated, as are comments, flames, blames, and anything
of some content.

I've done this for a couple of internet providers in Western Australia.
Either by using transparent proxying under Linux (one used a Linux term
server..), or a route-map to a *nix box on a Cisco.

There are a few privacy issues too - if you want to see who is online,
you just send out ident requests to all dialup lines, and the 'real' idents
are returned. One Perth ISP fixed this by using a hash of the username.
That fixes IRC bans (so they can just ban *!*hash@*isp.com.au ) .. and if
someone wants to track a user down, they ring the ISP and hand over the
hash.


Adrian


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