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Re: Reporting Little Blue Men
From: Phil Howard <phil () charon milepost com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:33:40 -0600 (CST)
Dennis Simpson writes...
From: Dean Anderson <dean () av8 com> But when you take the step from advocacy to actions you are violating the law in almost every case. You can advocate anything, but you can't go tearing down buildings, or in this case, intercepting communications.Filtering packets is not interception, it is disregard. If I ignore your packets and do not pass them to the next machine in the link, I am not intercepting your communications, I am ignoring them. Unless you are paying me to do so, I have no obligation to carry your packets.
I agree fully. Interception only takes place by a party whose role is not the carrying of the communication. The phone company is not doing an interception of your Chicago to New York phone call if they happen to route it via Dallas and Atlanta just because there are available lines there.
If my server checks message headers to determine validity before transferring to a spool file, I am not intercepting, I am determining message routing. As above, if you aren't paying me, I have no obligation to deliver something you handed me for delivery. Or are you suggesting mail servers should deliver mail without determining who it is for?
The only possible remaining obligation is with the receiver who is paying. If they actually _want_ spam, then the obligation to deliver is not met if spam is blocked. OTOH I know of no one (besides spammers) who actually want spam (and most spammers themselves don't want any from anyone else). -- Phil Howard | die3spam () no0where edu w2x4y3z2 () dumbads9 com stop0it3 () no2where com phil | w0x5y9z1 () anyplace edu stop4078 () s8p6a5m7 com a4b3c9d3 () no87ads9 net at | blow0me5 () lame6ads org end4it59 () dumb6ads edu no37ads5 () no3where edu milepost | suck7it0 () anyplace net eat77me9 () spam8mer org eat06me1 () no0where net dot | a8b9c5d3 () no4where edu no69ads7 () anywhere com stop7541 () dumb6ads com com | no9way51 () noplace5 com die0spam () no9where org w8x3y6z6 () no6place edu
Current thread:
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men, (continued)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Gary E. Miller (Jan 21)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Henry Linneweh (Jan 21)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Steve Sobol (Jan 23)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Craig A. Huegen (Jan 20)
- RE: Reporting Little Blue Men Dave Van Allen (Jan 20)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Eric Wieling (Jan 21)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Dennis Simpson (Jan 21)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 21)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Michael Dillon (Jan 21)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 21)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 21)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Phil Howard (Jan 21)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Dean Anderson (Jan 21)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 21)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Taner Halicioglu (Jan 21)
- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Phil Howard (Jan 21)
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- Re: Reporting Little Blue Men Dean Anderson (Jan 21)
- Re: ridiculous misreadings of laws John R. Levine (Jan 22)
- Re: ridiculous misreadings of laws Dean Anderson (Jan 22)
- Re: ridiculous misreadings of laws Howard Goldstein (Jan 22)
- Re: ridiculous misreadings of laws Jeremy Porter (Jan 22)
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