Re: Keynote/Boardwatch Internet Backbone Index A better test!!!

[Ben Black <black () zen cypher net>]

i see, so i am to understand you wish us to simply *trust* that your 
results are valid based on vague references to your methodology?

hey everyone, i have just completed a study that indicates in some 
circumstances a 28.8 modem is faster than a DS-3!  no details at this 
time, but i swear it is all true!

On Fri, 27 Jun 1997, Jack Rickard wrote:

> Mr. Black:
>
> That is not precisely true.  How do you KNOW that the STUDY gives no
> details, when you can't have possibly SEEN the study YET.  You don't think
> my logic is flawed.  You don't know but snippets of what the logic IS.  You
> don't like what you see of a summary sliver of the results from a PRESS
> RELEASE.
>
> Jack Rickard
>
> ----------
> > From: Ben Black <black () zen cypher net>
> > To: Jack Rickard <jack.rickard () boardwatch com>
> > Cc: nanog () merit edu
> > Subject: Re: Keynote/Boardwatch Internet Backbone Index A better test!!!
> > Date: Friday, June 27, 1997 3:53 PM
> >
> > the "study" gives no details on the systems used, where they were, who 
> > provided net connectivity...far from scientific.  the sort of thing one 
> > would expect from marketeers.
> >
> > and just because overall system performance affects web downloads, does 
> > that mean web downloads can be used to accurately and meaningfully 
> > measure overall system performance?  i think your logic is flawed.
> >
> > the net is not a big BBS, in case you haven't heard.
> >
> > On Fri, 27 Jun 1997, Jack Rickard wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not a marketing droid.  But only a moron would think that overall
> > > performance would NOT affect the download of a web page, which is
> > > essentially what you are attempting to say.
> > >
> > > There are certainly other ways to do it.  Approximately Internet User
> > > Population raised to Internet User Population worth.
> > >
> > > Jack RIckard
> > >
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> > >
> > > ----------
> > > > From: Ben Black <black () zen cypher net>
> > > > To: Craig A. Huegen <c-huegen () quadrunner com>
> > > > Cc: Jack Rickard <jack.rickard () boardwatch com>; Peter Cole
> > > <Peter.Cole () telescan com>; nanog () merit edu; marketing () keynote com
> > > > Subject: Re: Keynote/Boardwatch Internet Backbone Index A better
> test!!!
> > > > Date: Friday, June 27, 1997 2:28 PM
> > > >
> > > > for an exmple of somewhat more complete and better designed
> benchmarks of
> > > > this type:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.inversenet.com/about/backgrounder.html#2
> > > >
> > > > note that they understand the numerous factors that contribute to
> overall
> > > > performance.  only a marketing droid could think downloading 50k
> worth of
> > > > web pages is somehow an indicator of overall performance.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > b3n