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Re: [NIC-960209.1757] Routing Problem (fwd)


From: "William Allen Simpson" <bsimpson () morningstar com>
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 96 17:04:55 GMT

From: Robert Du Gaue <rdugaue () calweb com>
To: Network Registration Role Account <netreg () internic net>
cc: nanog () merit edu, cidrd () IEPG ORG, iepg () IEPG ORG, iab () isi edu, iesg () isi edu,
        dennis.mcconnell () nolte com, noc () pagesat net, norman () pagesat net

So kind of you to include so many lists.  (:-{

I truncated the CC to the appropriate list for NA service providers.


How the hell can I be a successful ISP when first, I probably
can not justify 64 blocks (and if I do Sprint may change it to 128
anyways!)

Let's think about this for a moment.  How do you define "successful"?

If you mean, you already have lots of customers signed up before you
ask for your first block, then of course you won't have any problem
justifying 64 or more C's.  And you will be able to afford to run your
own continental links to the various NAPs.

I do not see how having no customers signed up qualifies as successful.


and second if the blocks I get are not routed through one of
the MAJOR backbone proivders then they are useless to me and my end
users!

On the other hand, are you saying you are "successful", but you are not
running your own continental network?  Why then, you must be connected
to "one of the MAJOR" providers, correct?  It only takes one.  You get
your addresses from them, not from the global pool.

As an alternative, I have long advocated that you get your addresses
from an Exchange, and that Exchange arrange for connectivity to the rest
of the net.  There is more than one such Exchange in your region.


Using old policies to justify not doing something against what
is obviously discrimination against smaller ISPs does nothing to solve
the problem.

I don't know what "old policy" you are referring to.  The warning about
small unaggregated routes is relatively new.  Please be more specific.

I cannot parsed your sentence.  What specific problem are you
complaining about, and what is _your_ solution?

Bill.Simpson () um cc umich edu
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