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Re: Customer AS
From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry () piermont com>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 21:53:35 -0400
Randy Bush writes:
just what i always wanted, two connections to a broken provider. you must be kidding.I guess this brings to mind the question: Why would you want *any* connections to a broken provider?all providers break.
Most providers also pretend this doesn't happen. One thing I'm increasingly impatient with is the following: You call up operations center for provider X. "Why is it that I'm having trouble contacting node N?" "Well, the router in Foostown is down." "What do you mean, *THE* router in Foostown? You only have ONE!?" When I've worked on building internal networks for banks, we've typically done "no single point of failure" designs. Two links everywhere over diverse paths, two routers carrying the traffic from every point, etc. This means that no single router or piece of equipment or cable dying can bring you down. If you architect things right, it doesn't even cost that much more -- routers end up handling disjoint subsets and the like. The real expense is multiple lines, but that can often be used as a way to upgrade your bandwidth. We can't pretend to be able to replace the phone networks until we can achieve similar reliability. Phone networks typically are spec'ed to two minutes a year downtime. We have a giant advantage in so far as our protocols allow us to do failover far more gracefully. People should start taking advantage of that. The fact that things aren't nearly that reliable yet is the reason people are forced to multihome their customer networks. Perry - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Current thread:
- Re: Customer AS, (continued)
- Re: Customer AS Jon Zeeff (Aug 23)
- Re: Customer AS Nick Williams (Aug 23)
- Re: Customer AS Vadim Antonov (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Curtis Villamizar (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Vadim Antonov (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Curtis Villamizar (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Randy Bush (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Perry E. Metzger (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Rob Skrobola (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Randy Bush (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Perry E. Metzger (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Michael Dillon (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Henry Kilmer (Aug 21)
- Re: Customer AS Michael Dillon (Aug 26)